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From: "Kevin O'Donovan" <abaddon@nasoftwr.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Gem List
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 1994 11:27:59 +0100 (BST)
In-Reply-To: <23940728213132/0006795560PK2EM@mcimail.com> from "Daniel J. Hollis" at Jul 28, 94 04:31:00 pm
Precedence: bulk
Daniel J. Hollis said:
> I don't think you have ANY idea of what you're talking about. I
> am in no way "misusing" AES. How could I *hint* at misusing a
> standard when I'm using all of the standard calls the same way
> that they are documented in the documentation, and in BOOKS?
>
I'm simply saying that its very difficult to make the AES lose keystrokes
if you're doing things properly. I did a few tests last night in which I
had the computer go away and do some heavy processing between key responses
and I was unable to make it miss a key. The only time I did have similar
problems was way back when I was half way through upgrading an application
from Tos to Gem, and I mixed Gemdos console input with AES input - it worked
Okay if I could be certain they never overlapped, but if they did characters
would go missing (note that I'm not advocating the above - I needed to release
an upgrade quickly and this was intended purely as a stopgap measure.
> one thing, you said that you were writing another program that included the
> source from XView, which means that you didn't write it, so this book does
> not document YOUR program.
We're talking about libraries aren't we? I'm writing a library that provides
the Xview API (though the widgets it generates look like Motif, but WTF) along
with its functionallity. I've also released a few programs, the last 3 (soon
to become 4) of which use the library. The book doesn't document these
programs, but because I've implemented the library described in the book it
does document my library. In any case, my remark was a tongue in cheek one,
meant to illustrate the ridiculousness of these "trying to go one better
than the person before" type conversations. Guess I failed.
> No one would buy any more Atari books anyway.
>
People would probably buy them, but getting someone to publish them, and
someone else to stock them would be a bit more difficult.
> I never said these were not absolutes. If we were to put
> everything on the earth that everyone else liked and wanted to see
> in a library, we would have a GUI the size of a gigabyte! We JUST
> can't include every idea that everyone will come up with in one
> single library. There's just no way.
>From my experience of a variety of windowing systems and window managers there
are not that many of these sort of options. And remember, the size of the
library itself doesn't matter - a program will only be that big if it
uses everything in the library, or if the library was put together badly.
Kev
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Kevin O'Donovan
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